A BAe-146 air tanker makes a drop on the Karney Fire northeast of Boise. (Inciweb photo)
The Karney fire that according to Boise County Sheriffs office officials was allegedly set by an 18-year old volunteer firefighter, has burned 430 acres 6 miles northeast of Boise, Idaho. The fire is about a mile west of the community of Robie Creek and is being managed by a Type 2 incident management team led by Incident Commander Mike Wilde.
More information about the Karney Fire.
Far too often we hear about volunteer and career firefighters starting fires As some other states have done, a “sentencing enhancement” should be levied for violating the public trust.
I guess he’s got his dad’s attention.
I see that a Neptune Aviation BAe-146 is fighting the fire near Boise, I haven`t seen very much video or feedback on how the new plane is doing ?
Joe just my own opinion as one who is familiar with the business, what I have seen with the
drop patterns of the 146-it looks good especially for a pressurized system…may have
a winner there…
Sadly this is not the first incident of this type, nor the last.
Can anyone tell me why the 747 Supertanker hasn’t been used? Shouldn’t all
available resources be used? Treasure Valley is choking under a smoke cloud!
Re: “Can anyone tell me why the 747 Supertanker hasn’t been used?”
See: http://wildfiretoday.com/2012/06/29/evergreen-speculates-that-small-business-contracting-requirements-prevented-the-use-of-their-supertanker/
Also, I have heard rumors that the 747 platforms were restored to their original cargo hauling configuration. It would be nice to confirm or deny this rumor.
Let’s just hope the fires in E.Washington don’t turn into a re-run of 1910. Seen a fwx prediction lately? A smallish version of the predicted front went through western Oregon today, and I hope to hell that it doesn’t do what I think it might do to fire behavior east of here on fires tomorrow. Fire behavior guys who know their stuff have been talking about the “perfect storm” for years.
I hope to hell this is not it. Not now.
I can not confirm nor deny any rumor about Evergreen
BUT I could venture a GUESS that maybe with the contracts they can get elsewhere and not having to deal with the silliness of the last 2-5 years of “studies and decisionmaking” for the mix of airtankers for the “toolbox”….that they have gotten some more lucrative overseas cargo hauls and firefighting capability for the Mediterranean (sp) and others that JUST MAYBE they do not want or need to deal with the Circus…if you know what I mean
Probably the other factors of the Fred Fuchs and others issues in the 1990′s that it better not to mix business with pleasure.
After that little fiasco……it’s better to have pleasure overseas contracting rather than all the vagueness of other Agencies using aircraft for the clowniing around of the 1990′s.
I could be wrong. But I would also bet folks ought to be watching what happens IF Mr Hatton closes his doors with Tanker10LLC for the lack of exclusive use contracts due to an Agency wanting to do things on the cheap.
The ’10 proved itself this year and Evergreen’s ’47 is proving itself elsewhere…….too bad for th US LMA’s
Oh and the the possibilities of 1910? Well, the Agencies have already spelled that out for us all with the “management” of the resource and the airtanker program already!!!!