The Red Flag Warning map is interesting today, with the only warning area being in the southwest corner of North Dakota, in effect from late Wednesday morning through early evening. It is another example of weather conditions, as reported by the National Weather Service, being affected by state boundaries.
Here is the weather forecast for the center of the Red Flag Area in North Dakota; what it does not include is the relative humidity, which is predicted to be 35 to 45 percent:
A chance of rain and snow showers before 2pm, then a chance of snow showers between 2pm and 4pm. Mostly cloudy, then gradually becoming sunny, with a temperature falling to around 28 by 5pm. Windy, with a northwest wind 26 to 31 mph increasing to 40 to 45 mph in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 65 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.
And below, the forecast for northwest Wyoming (RH 35 percent):
A slight chance of rain showers, mixing with snow after 2pm, then gradually ending. Partly sunny, with a temperature falling to around 31 by 5pm. Very windy, with a northwest wind 29 to 34 mph increasing to 39 to 44 mph in the morning. Winds could gust as high as 60 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.
And northwest South Dakota (RH 33 percent):
Isolated showers before 9am. Partly sunny, with a temperature falling to around 32 by 5pm. Very windy, with a northwest wind 28 to 38 mph increasing to 39 to 49 mph in the morning. Winds could gust as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.
As you can see in the map below, the peak wind gusts recorded at around 8 a.m. MST on Wednesday were in the 40s and 50s in western Montana and northwest South Dakota. Much of western Wyoming was in the same boat. There was a 71 mph gust at Cheyenne, Wyoming.
The high wind speeds are caused by a strong cold front moving through the area, which may not have reached full strength in North Dakota at 8 a.m.
Apparently the NWS weather forecasters in these areas disagreed about how to evaluate the very strong winds balanced with the chance of precipitation, and then how to decide if conditions met the Red Flag criteria.
We have gotten the impression over the years that there is a lot of subjectivity that goes into Red Flag Warnings. The criteria for determining the Warnings is supposed to be very cut and dried and objective, and varies from area to area based on historical weather and fuels. But it is not uncommon to see the boundaries for Red Flag Warnings end at state lines even though conditions and forecasts may be very similar on both sides of those imaginary lines.
The Red Flag map was current as of 8:00 a.m. MDT on Wednesday. Red Flag Warnings can change throughout the day as the National Weather Service offices around the country update and revise their forecasts and maps. For the most current data visit this NWS site or this NWS site.
Here’s a wind chart from the National Weather Service that doesn’t recognize political boundaries. Unfortunately, it doesn’t provide red flag warnings.
http://aviationweather.gov/adds/winds/
Looking at this page:
http://www.weather.gov/unr/rfd
The Grassland Fire Danger is in the extreme category across western South Dakota. Might be more useful for the cured grasses on the prairie than a Red Flag warning?
Looks like the one office is using significantly different criteria than others. The Red Flag warning product at:
http://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=unr&wwa=red%20flag%20warning
only has RH down to 35-45%. Isn’t the RH criteria usually less than 20% for a Red Flag warning? If 35-45% criteria was used all summer, there be many more Red Flag days.
Trying something here. I hope not to offend. If the wind map does not work, please delete this.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-108.06,38.33,216
Here is a link to a version of that animated wind map that zooms in on the United States.
The cut-offs are actually not impacted by state lines but rather NWS CWAs (county warning areas). However, often they tend to match up with state boundaries many times. The criteria for each region varies which is a similar aspect as the wind advisories (which many High Plains offices have done away with) and often lead to confusion. You can find criteria by CWA in RMACC on page 16 here: http://www.blm.gov/colorado/rmafwx/2006_AOP.pdf&sa=U&ved=0CBAQFjACahUKEwiE6fDerprJAhXPO4gKHcIMC18&usg=AFQjCNGOYSk50Gq027b1u8yA9oewsUrTIA
The issue of Red Flag Warnings versus threat is something that is being evaluated in Kansas and other states. From initial results in Kansas, we are finding that most of the fire activity is occurring outside of Red Flag criteria. This suggests that some modification is required to warning criteria and that it should be more flexible. Warnings should provide further emphasis on critical burning periods not simply restricted by atmospheric conditions. This is especially considered in the Plains during the winter when fine fuels are cured and can sufficiently carry fire with RH 30%+. Combine that with strong winds and there is a serious threat outside of warning criteria. Offices (like this Instance) are subjective in how proactive they are in stretching the criteria for each issuance with this in mind. This can be good, but could also result in discrepancies.
Opps, wrong url https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.blm.gov/colorado/rmafwx/2006_AOP.pdf&sa=U&ved=0CBAQFjACahUKEwiE6fDerprJAhXPO4gKHcIMC18&usg=AFQjCNGOYSk50Gq027b1u8yA9oewsUrTIA