After working full time in wildland fire for 33 years, he continues to learn, and strives to be a Student of Fire.
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12 thoughts on “Three found dead at Zogg Fire in northern California”
Where do you find out which houses burned….and which names of owners go to the houses……There’s a lady looking for her daughter that had a house on Platina Road in Ono…..There’s news claiming 145 houses burnt out and nobody is specifying which house numbers……or names to which houses….Looking for someone with the last name Allen….that had a house in Ono…….
No matter who was killed, first-responders and others in the line of duty or civilians, such tragedies need to be investigated and reported accurately so that operational protocols can be improved. Unfortunately, because the blame-game is so prevalent, it is often difficult to get accurate information.
Bill, can you provide some insights? Thanks.
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Only the local firefighters fighting the fires know better what they need. However, I do wonder why other states without wildfires can’t lend a hand.
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They are. There are firefighters from all over the country in CA and other western states. The Georgia Forestry Commission has at least two hand crews, with one of them in CA , and amny single resources on fires throughout the west.
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I’m not “implying” anything. I’m saying something.
Words have meanings. They count, and the media (The Fourth Estate) have the responsibility to get it right, not just interview one “expert” and declare that as fact.
Most structure fires are due to airborne firebrands, hot coals, embers, not the flame front. The media (especially TV and Internet) tend to mislead, as they have for years. I’d like to know of exceptions. Like here.
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It sounds like your tinfoil hat is on too tight
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The media continue stand among destroyed homes and declare that “the wildfire just swept through” in front of a background of trees and other plants that did not burn, oblivious to the evidence.
Are there any media outlets that are interested in digging for facts beyond dramatics?
Is any organized effort being made to bring the media up to speed?
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What exactly are you trying to imply?
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Wildfire today produced a figure showing Average size in acres of United States wildfires shown by decade from 1960 to 2009. I am using this figure in an academic book on global change,, but not a textbook, to be published by Springer Nature. Is there any US government sponsor such as NOAA, NASA used in your your figure and thus this figure should be in the public domain. Is there any copyright problem to use your figure ?
Thanks for a reply ASAP,
Dr. Hans Nelson USGS retired
Where do you find out which houses burned….and which names of owners go to the houses……There’s a lady looking for her daughter that had a house on Platina Road in Ono…..There’s news claiming 145 houses burnt out and nobody is specifying which house numbers……or names to which houses….Looking for someone with the last name Allen….that had a house in Ono…….
You can try this map produced by Shasta County:
No matter who was killed, first-responders and others in the line of duty or civilians, such tragedies need to be investigated and reported accurately so that operational protocols can be improved. Unfortunately, because the blame-game is so prevalent, it is often difficult to get accurate information.
Bill, can you provide some insights? Thanks.
Only the local firefighters fighting the fires know better what they need. However, I do wonder why other states without wildfires can’t lend a hand.
They are. There are firefighters from all over the country in CA and other western states. The Georgia Forestry Commission has at least two hand crews, with one of them in CA , and amny single resources on fires throughout the west.
I’m not “implying” anything. I’m saying something.
Words have meanings. They count, and the media (The Fourth Estate) have the responsibility to get it right, not just interview one “expert” and declare that as fact.
Most structure fires are due to airborne firebrands, hot coals, embers, not the flame front. The media (especially TV and Internet) tend to mislead, as they have for years. I’d like to know of exceptions. Like here.
It sounds like your tinfoil hat is on too tight
The media continue stand among destroyed homes and declare that “the wildfire just swept through” in front of a background of trees and other plants that did not burn, oblivious to the evidence.
Are there any media outlets that are interested in digging for facts beyond dramatics?
Is any organized effort being made to bring the media up to speed?
What exactly are you trying to imply?
Wildfire today produced a figure showing Average size in acres of United States wildfires shown by decade from 1960 to 2009. I am using this figure in an academic book on global change,, but not a textbook, to be published by Springer Nature. Is there any US government sponsor such as NOAA, NASA used in your your figure and thus this figure should be in the public domain. Is there any copyright problem to use your figure ?
Thanks for a reply ASAP,
Dr. Hans Nelson USGS retired
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