Panel discussion: “Are We Getting the Whole Story on Wildfires?”

The Aaron Harber Show has produced a two-part series of panel discussions about wildfires, titled: “Are We Getting the Whole Story on Wildfires?” Each show includes five experts or people with experience or a commercial interest in firefighting wildfires or using aerial resources on fires.

The producers are planning to broadcast the first show (Part 1 of 2) in Denver and across Colorado on Sunday, January 5th, on Channel 3 KCDO-TV (K3 Colorado), followed by broadcasts on Monday, January 6th, on COMCAST Entertainment Television, and again on Tuesday, January 7th, on ION Television, so the program will get significant exposure right as the Colorado General Assembly returns to Denver. Part 2 will be broadcast statewide on January 12th, 13th, and 14th, on the same channels, respectively.

According to their website, “The Aaron Harber Show” is a weekly television program promoting mutually respectful civil discourse. Its broadcast originates from Denver, Colorado.

The panelists include:

  • Rick Goddard, President & CEO, Caylym Systems (which is attempting to develop a system for delivering retardant in cardboard boxes that weigh 100-pounds when empty)
  • Jim Davis, Executive Director of the Colorado Department of Public Safety;
  • Harris Sherman, former U.S. Undersecretary of Agriculture;
  • Rick Hatton, President and CEO of 10 Tanker Air Carrier (operates two DC-10 air tankers that carry 11,600 gallons each);
  • Dennis Hulbert, former head of aviation for the U.S. Forest Service in California;
  • David Baskett, President & CEO of International Emergency Services (he is attempting to bring into the United States aerial firefighting fleet the Russian-made Be-200 amphibious water-scooping air tanker).

Obviously a few of them have their own agenda, but still it is interesting to hear people talk at length about wildland fire, some of whom have experience and/or knowledge of the subject.

In case you will not be able to watch the shows when they air on television, we have embedded them here. The first video, Part 1, is below:

Part 2:

The videos can also be seen at the Aaron Harber Show website. 

 

Thanks and a hat tip go out to William and Dick

Wildfire briefing, January 3, 2014

Drought Monitor

The Drought Monitor shows that most of California, Nevada, and southern Idaho are in either a severe or extreme drought. This could be an interesting winter fire season if it continues.

Drought Monitor 12-31-2013

Arizona State Forestry Division wants to almost double budget

The state organization responsible for managing the Yarnell Hill Fire is requesting a budget for the Arizona State Forestry Division that is nearly double what they received in the fiscal year that ends June 30. According to an article at Azcentral, State Forester Scott Hunt wants to add $6.2 million to this year’s budget of $7.3 million. The additional funds would be used to hire 15 additional staffers, replace firefighting and communications equipment, and allocate $2 million to remove hazardous vegetation on state and private lands. The budget request was filed in October, after 19 firefighters died on the Yarnell Hill Fire but before the state Division of Occupational Safety and Health issued their report on the fire and recommended a $550,000 fine be imposed on the Arizona State Forestry Division as a result of the fatalities on the fire.

Retired smokejumper interviewed on Montana Public Radio

Retired smokejumper Wayne Williams is featured in an interview on Montana Public Radio. In the 11-minute recording Mr. Williams speaks eloquently from his decades of experience. It is refreshing to hear someone interviewed about wildland fire in the media who knows the subject matter. The audio is HERE, and a short article with his photo is HERE.

Army attempts to prevent wildfires at Schofield Barracks

Raising the berm at Schofield Barracks
A soldier with 2nd Platoon, 523rd Engineer Company, 84th Engineer Battalion, 130th Engineer Brigade, 8th Theater Sustainment Command, uses a D7 bulldozer to increase the size of the berm so it is a 20 feet by 20 feet dimension. (U.S. Army photo by: 1st Lt. Lucian Myers, 2nd Platoon, 523rd Engineer Company, 84th Engineer Battalion, 130th Engineer Brigade, 8th Theater Sustainment Command)

In October and November two wildfires started at a range used for controlled detonations to dispose of unexploded ordnance at Schofield Barracks west of Honolulu, Hawaii. The fire that started October 15 burned more than 250 acres. It was fought for five days, then two days later rekindled and was finally extinguished October 28. Another fire in November burned about 30 acres.

In order to reduce the chances of vegetation fires igniting from the explosions, soldiers are using dozers to increase the height of the dirt berm surrounding the range from 7 feet to 22 feet. During the project, which was conducted 24 hours a day between December 9 and 13, they moved 5,800 cubic yards of dirt.

Wildfire Tweets

Below are a couple of messages on Twitter that had photos of fires — at Valparaiso, Chile and Lake Tahoe, California (which may be a prescribed fire).

 

Thanks and a hat tip go out to Dick and Chris

Wildfire potential January through April, 2014

The Predictive Services section at the National Interagency Fire Center has issued their Wildland Fire Potential Outlook for January through April, 2014. If their prediction is correct there could be elevated wildfire potential in the San Francisco bay area in January and also in New Mexico and Texas in March and April. Here is their summary:

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“January

  • Below normal significant wildland fire potential will for most of the southeastern U.S. except for far southern Florida and deep South Texas.
  • Above normal significant wildland fire potential will affect the Bay Area of Northern California.

Wildfire Outlook, January, 2014

February

  • The Southeast will continue to see below normal significant wildland fire potential along the coastal regions from Virginia to southeastern Texas.
  • There are no areas of above normal fire potential for February.

Wildfire Outlook, February, 2014

March through April

  • Part of the Southeast will continue to see below normal significant wildland fire potential across eastern Texas and Oklahoma, the lower and mid-Mississippi, and the Tennessee Valley.
  • Above normal significant wildland fire potential will develop across eastern New Mexico and West Texas in March and April.”

Wildfire Outlook, March-April 2014(end of NIFC’s outlook)

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On December 31 the Predictive Services group at the North Zone Coordination Center in Redding, California issued a “Seasonal Outlook” for northern California and Hawaii, which is valid for the months of February through April. In a nutshell, they forecast normal “weather and fuel/fire potential” during the period.

Another Predictive Services group that apparently prefers to remain anonymous has issued a “Monthly/Seasonal Outlook” for January through April, 2014 for California, but does not say when it was prepared or issued. It includes a strange map of a portion of California that is difficult to interpret since it does not have any cities, roads, or counties, but it does have some unidentified boundaries of some sort. While it is not clear, the document appears to be an outlook for the entire state. If so, then the northern California report above is a duplication, except that it also included Hawaii.

As we have stated before, technical reports and outlooks that are decision support tools need to indicate the date it was issued, and which office and personnel analyzed and compiled the information. The one for Northern California does, and even lists the names of the subject matter experts who worked on the report. Good job, Basil Newmerzhycky and John Snook.

Casselton train derailment

Casselton train derailment
A still image from a video of the Casselton train derailment, showing a very impressive mushroom cloud of flame.

So, you pull up to the scene of a railroad accident in your Type 6 wildland fire engine with 150 gallons of water……

You probably heard about the train derailment on Monday of oil-carrying railroad cars one mile outside Casselton, North Dakota. The video below, shot by by Darrin Radermacher, shows one of the half dozen explosions heard by residents of the town.

Two trains were involved in the accident. BNSF spokeswoman Amy McBeth said the train carrying grain derailed first, then knocked several cars of the oil train off adjoining tracks. BNSF said both trains had more than 100 cars.

The railroad crew was able to detach and remove from the scene about 80 cars of the oil train. Firefighters, unable to get near the fire, were allowing it to burn itself out. By nightfall on Monday the flames had diminished and the temperature had dropped to 15 below with a windchill of 32 below.

Some Montana firefighters no longer obligated to save homes from wildfires

Structure fire in Hot Springs, SD.
Structure fire in Hot Springs, SD. Photo by Bill Gabbert.

The County Commissioners of Lewis and Clark County in Montana recently approved a resolution making it clear that county-level firefighters are not under an obligation to protect a home from a wildfire in the Wildland Urban Interface (WUI). Below is an excerpt from an article in the Missoulian:

“…A lot of crews think they have to protect homes, and we’re trying to make it clear they’re just sticks and bricks,” said Sonny Stiger, who helped write the resolution. “This lets our firefighters know they’re not obligated to put their lives on the line to save homes.”

Stiger, a retired fire and fuels specialist with the U.S. Forest Service and a board member with FireSafe Montana, said building defensible space around homes in the urban interface is the sole responsibility of property owners who choose to live there.

Stiger said the new resolution makes it clear that homeowners should not expect firefighters to put their lives at risk to defend property.

“We can save a lot of homes going back in after the fire front passes, or in the case of the Yarnell Hill fire, not going in at all,” Stiger said, referring to the Arizona blaze that killed 19 firefighters in June. “It’s time we stepped up at the county level to deal with this, and to let (firefighters) know they’re not obligated to protect homes…”

The resolution says in part:

Homes in the Wildland/Urban Interface will not dictate fire suppression tactics, strategies, or the location of fire lines.

The article claims this is a “first-of-its-kind resolution”, which may be the case. There is no doubt that some homeowners who moved into the WUI and refuse to cut or thin the trees and brush growing within 100 feet of their houses will be furious at this concept. Some of them take no responsibility as a property owner to make their homes fire-safe, but expect firefighters, many of them volunteers, to risk their lives to save their structures.

Placing the primary responsibility to protect a home from wildfire on the property owner, where it belongs, is very appropriate. County, city, and state regulations recognizing this do not exist in many areas..

On the Yarnell Hill Fire there was at least one person in a supervisory role who asked the Granite Mountain Hotshots to move from their safe, previously burned area, over to the the town of Yarnell in order to protect the structures, many of which were described later as not defendable due to brush and trees very close to the buildings. Some of the homeowners had done little or nothing to make their homes fire-safe. As the crew hiked through unburned brush toward the town, they were overrun by the fire and killed.

In the structural firefighting world you will sometimes hear opinions about risk-taking while fighting fire, including:

  • Risk a lot to save a lot.
  • Risk a little to save a little.
  • Risk nothing to save nothing.

“Risk a lot” usually refers to rescuing occupants or preventing their death. “Save nothing” may apply to an abandoned building.

In wildland fire, vegetation could be in the “nothing” category. Sure, wildland fuels may have ecological, watershed, aesthetic value, or monetary value in the case of timber or pasture, but most vegetation has adapted or evolved to burn on a regular basis and will usually grow back. Houses grow back too, but firefighters don’t. Firefighters should never risk much to save acres OR houses.

The Weather Channel’s Yarnell Hill Fire documentary

The documentaries and other tributes to the 19 firefighter victims of the June 30 Yarnell Hill Fire continue to pour in. The latest one was produced by The Weather Channel and includes a 16-minute video and a lengthy article.

From The Weather Channel:

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“On June 30, 2013, 19 firefighters from the Granite Mountain Hotshots were killed battling a wildfire near Yarnell, Arizona. Huge questions remain about the last moments of their lives. Why did they move out of a safe area in their final minutes of life? Why did the fire move so quickly? Could their deaths have been prevented?

The tragedy also raises a crucial environmental issue: Has the very act of fighting wildfires made our forests more dangerous?

Weather.com investigates in this original documentary. Read our full report here.

Executive Producers: Greg Gilderman, Neil Katz, Shawn Efran
Producers: John Carlos Frey, Joe Halderman
Editor: Brandon Kieffer
Composer: Nathan Matthew David
Coordinating Producer: Brady Leifer
Associate Producer: Katie Wiggin
Production Assistants: Benjamin Heller, Kait Walsh”